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Trump gentlemen thanks so much for being

here let's begin the debate and let's

start with the issue that voters

consistently say is their top concern

the economy President Biden inflation

has slowed but prices remain high since

you took office the price of Essentials

has increased for example basket of

groceries that cost $100 then now costs

more than

$120 and typical home prices have jumped

more than 30% what do you say to voters

who feel they are worse off under your

presidency than they were under

President Trump we got to take a look at

what I was left when I became president

what Mr Trump left me we had an economy

that was in freefall the pandemic was so

badly handled many people were dying all

he said was it's not that serious just

inject a little bleach into your arm

you'll be all right the economy

collapsed there were no jobs

unemployment rate Rose to 15% it was

terrible and so what we had to do is try

to put things back together again that's

exactly what we began to do we created

15,000 new jobs we brought out position

where we have 800,000 new manufacturing

jobs but there's more to be done there's

more to be done workingclass people are

still in trouble I come from Scranton

Pennsylvania I come of household where

the kitchen table if the things weren't

able to be met during the mon was a a

problem price of eggs the price of gas

the price of housing the price of a

whole range of things that's why I'm

working so hard to make sure I deal with

those problems and we're going to make

sure that we reduce the price of housing

we're going to make sure we build two

two million new units we're going to

make sure we cap rents so corporate

greed can't take over the combination

but of was left with in corporate greed

is the reason why we're in this problem

right now in addition to that we're in a

situation where if you had take a look

at all that was done in his

administration he he didn't do much at

all by the time he left there things

were in chaos literally chaos and so we

put things back together we created I

said those jobs we make sure we had a

situation where we now we brought down

the price of prescription drugs which is

a major issue for many people to $15 for

for uh a insulin shot as opposed to $400

no senior has to pay more than $200 for

any drug all the drugs they can include

beginning next year in a situation as

make and we're going to make that

available to everybody to all Americans

so we're working to bring down the price

of around the kitchen table and that's

what we're going to get done thank you

president Trump we had the greatest

economy in the history of our country we

have never done so well every everybody

was amazed by it other countries were

copying us we got hit with covid and

when we did we spent the money necessary

so we wouldn't end up in a Great

Depression the likes of which we had in

1929 but by the time we finished so we

did a great job we got a lot of credit

for the economy a lot of credit for the

military and no Wars and so many other

things everything was rocking good but

the thing we never got the credit for

and we should have is getting us out of

that covid mess uh he created mandates

that was a disaster for our country but

other than that we had we had given them

back a a country where the stock market

actually was higher than preco and

nobody thought that was even possible uh

the only jobs he created are for illegal

immigrants and bounceback jobs a

bounceback from the co he has not done a

good job he's done a poor job in

inflation's killing our country it is

absolutely killing us thank you

President Biden well look the greatest

economy in the world he's the only one

that thinks that I think I don't know

anybody else that thinks he's he the

greatest economy in the world and you

know the fact of the matter is that uh

we PR ourselves in a situation where his

his economy he rewarded the wealthy he

had the largest tax cut in American

history $2 trillion he raised a deficit

larger than any president has in any one

term he's the only President other than

Herbert Hoover who's had lost more jobs

than he had when he began since Herbert

Hoover the idea that he did something

that was significant in the military you

know when he was president there were

still killing people in Afghanistan he

didn't do anything about that when he

was President we were still find

ourselves in a position where you had a

notion that we were this safe country

the truth is I'm the only president

this Century that doesn't have any this

this decade that don't any troops dying

anywhere in the world like he did uh

president Trump I want to follow up if I

can you want I allowed to respond to him

well I'm going to ask you a follow up

you can do whatever you want with the

minute that we give you um I I want to

follow up you you want to impose a 10%

tariff on all Goods coming into the US

how will you ensure that that doesn't

drive prices even higher not going to

drive them higher it's just going to

cause countries that have been ripping

us off for years like China and many

others in all fairness to China it's

going to just force them to pay us a lot

of money reduce our deficit tremendously

and give us a lot of power for other

things but he would he made a statement

the only thing he was right about is I

gave you the largest tax cut in history

I also gave you the largest regulation

cut in history that's why we had all the

jobs and the jobs went down and then

they bounced back and he's taking credit

for bounceback jobs you can't do that he

also said he inherited 9% inflation now

he inherited almost no inflation and it

stayed that way for 4 15 months and then

it blew up under his leadership because

they spent money like a bunch of people

that didn't know what they were doing

and they don't know what they were doing

it was the worst probably the worst

Administration in history there's never

been and as far as Afghanistan is

concerned I was getting out of

Afghanistan but we were getting out with

dignity with strength with power he got

out it was the most embarrassing day in

the history of our country's life

president Trump over the last eight

years under both of your administrations

the national debt soord to record highs

and according to a new nonpartisan

analysis president Trump your

Administration approved $8.4 trillion in

new debt while so far President Biden

you've approved $4.3 trillion in new

debt so former president Trump many of

the tax cuts that you signed into law

are set to expire next year you want to

extend them and go even further you say

with the US facing trillion dollar

deficits and record debt why should top

earners and corporations pay even less

in taxes than they do now because the

tax cuts spurred the greatest economy

that we've ever seen just prior to co

and even after Co it was so strong that

we were able to get through Co much

better than just about any other country

but we spurred that tax spurred now when

we cut the taxes as an example the uh

corporate tax was cut down to 21% from

39% plus beyond that uh we took in more

Revenue with much less tax and companies

were bringing back trillions of dollars

back into our country the country was

going like never before and we were

ready to start paying down debt we're

ready to start using the liquid gold

right under our feet the oil and gas

right under our feet we were going to

have something that nobody else has had

we got hit with covid we did a lot to

fix it I gave him an unbelievable

situation with all of the Therapeutics

and all of the things that we came up

with we we gave him something great

remember more people died under his

administration even though we had

largely fixed it more people died under

his administration

than our Administration and we were

right in the middle of it something

which a lot of people don't like to talk

about but he had far more people dying

in his administration he did the mandate

which is a disaster mandating it the

vaccine went out he did a mandate on the

vaccine which is the thing that people

most objected to about the vaccine and

he did a very poor job just a very poor

job and I will tell you not only poor

there but throughout the entire world

we're no longer respected as a country

they don't respect our leadership they

don't respect the United States anymore

we're like a third world Le between

weaponization of his election trying to

go after his political opponent all of

the things he's done we've become like a

third world nation and it's a shame the

damage he's done to our country and I'd

love to ask him and will why he allowed

millions of people to come in here from

prisons jails and mental institutions to

come into our country and destroy our

country president Trump we will get to

immigration uh later in this block

President Biden uh I want to give you an

opportunity to respond to this question

about the national debt he had the

largest national debt of any president

fouryear period number one number two

that $2 trillion tax cut benefited the

very wealthy I what I'm going to do is

fix the tax system for example we have a

thousand trillionaires in America I mean

billionaires in America and what's

happening they're in a situation where

they in fact pay 88.2% in taxes if they

just paid 24% or 25% either one of those

numbers they'd raised $500 million

billion dollars I should say in a

10-year period we'd be able to WR wipe

out his debt we'd be able to help make

sure that all those things we need to do

Child Care Elder Care making sure that

we continue to Str strengthen our health

care System making sure that we're able

to make every single solitary

person eligible for what I've been able

to do with the uh with with the covid

excuse me with um dealing with

everything we have to do with uh

look if we finally beat Medicare thank

you president uh Biden president Trump

well he's right he did beat Medicare he

beat it to death and he's destroying

Medicare because all of these people are

coming in they're putting them on

Medicare they're putting them on Social

Security they're going to destroy Social

Security this man is going to

single-handedly destroy Social Security

these millions and millions of people

coming in they're trying to put them on

Social Security he will wipe out Social

Security he will wipe out Medicare so he

was right in the way he finished that

sentence and it's a shame what's

happened to our country in the last four

years is not to be believed foreign

countries I'm friends with a lot of

people they cannot believe what happened

to the United States of America we're no

longer respected they they don't like us

we give them everything they want and

they they think we're stupid they think

we're very stupid people what we're

doing for other countries and they do

nothing for us what this man has done is

absolutely criminal thank you president

Trump danana this is the first

presidential election since the Supreme

Court overturned roie Wade this morning

the Court ruled on yet another abortion

case temporarily allowing emergency

abortions to continue in Idaho despite

that State's restrictive ban former

president Trump you take credit for the

decision to overturn roie Wade which

returned the issue of abortion to the

states correct however the federal

government still plays a role in whether

or not women have access to abortion

pills they're used in about 2third of

all abortions as president would you

block abortion medication first of all

the Supreme Court just approved the

abortion pill and I agree with their

decision to have done that and I will

not block it and if you look at this

whole question that you're asking a

complex but not really complex 51 years

ago you had Ro v Wade and everybody

wanted to get it back to the States

everybody without exception Democrats

Republicans liberals conservatives

everybody wanted it back religious

leaders and what I did is I put three

great Supreme Court Justices on the

court and they happened to vote in favor

of killing Ro v Wade and moving it back

to the States this is something that

everybody wanted now 10 years ago or so

they started talking about how many and

how many this getting into other things

but every legal scholar throughout the

world the most respected wanted it

brought back to the States I did that

now the states are working it out if you

look at Ohio it was a decision that was

it was an end result that was a little

bit more liberal than you would have

thought uh Kansas I would say the same

thing uh Texas is different Florida is

different but they're all making their

own decisions right now and right now

the states control it that's the vote of

the people like Ronald re rean I believe

in the exceptions I am a person that

believes and frankly I think it's

important to believe in the exceptions

some people you have to follow your

heart some people don't believe in that

but I believe in the exceptions for rape

incest and the life of the mother I

think it's very important some people

don't follow your heart but you have to

get elected also and because that has to

do with other things you got to get

elected the problem they have is they're

radical because they will take the life

of a child in the eighth month the ninth

month and even after birth after birth

if you look at the former governor of

Virginia he was willing to do this he

said we'll put the baby aside and we'll

determine what we do with the baby

meaning we'll kill the baby what

happened is we brought it back to the

states and the country is now coming

together on this issue it's been a great

thing thank you President Biden it's

been a terrible thing what you've done

the fact is that the vast majority of

constitutional Scholars support it row

when it was decided support it row and

was that's this idea that they're all

against it is just ridiculous and this

is the guy who says the state should be

able to have it we're in a state we're

in six weeks you don't even know whether

you're pregnant or not but you cannot

see a doctor have your and have him

decide on what your circumstances are

whether you need help the idea that

states are able to do this is a little

like saying we're going to turn civil

rights back to the States Let each state

have a different rule look there's so

many young women who have been including

a young woman who just was murdered and

he he went to the funeral uh the idea

that she was murdered by a by by an

immigrant coming into they talk about

that but here's the deal there's a lot

of young women are being raped by their

by their in-laws by their by by their

spouses brothers and sisters by just

it's it's just ridiculous and they can

do nothing about it and they try to

arrest them when they cross state line

thank you there have been many young

women murdered by the same people he

allowed to come across our border we

have a border that's the most dangerous

place anywhere in the world considered

the most dangerous place anywhere in the

world and he opened it up and these

killers are coming into our country and

they are raping and killing women and

it's a terrible thing as far as the

abortions concerned it is now back with

the states the states are voting uh in

many cases the it's frankly a very

liberal decision in many cases it's the

opposite but they're voting and it's

bringing it back to the vote of the

people which is what everybody wanted

including the founders if they knew

about this issue which frankly they

didn't but they would have everybody

wanted brought back Ronald Reagan wanted

it brought back he wasn't able to get it

everybody wanted it brought back and

many presidents had tried to get it back

I was the one to do it and again this

gives it the vote of the people and

that's where they wanted it every legal

scholar Wanted It That Way staying on

the topic of abortion President Biden

seven states I'll let you do that this

is a same topic seven states have no

legal restrictions on how far into a

pregnancy a woman can obtain an abortion

do you support any legal limits on how

late a woman should be able to terminate

a pregnancy I supported row v Wade which

had three trimesters the first time is

between the woman and the doctor second

time is between the doctor and an

extreme situation the third time is

between the doctor I mean between the

woman and the state the idea that the

politicians the that the founders want

the politicians to be the ones making

decisions about Woman's Health is

ridiculous that's the last no politician

should be making that decision a doctor

should be making those decisions that's

how it should be run that's what you're

going to do and if I'm elected I'm going

to restore roie Wade so that means he

can take the life of the baby in the

ninth month and even after birth because

some states Democrat run take it after

birth again the governor former governor

of Virginia put the baby down then we

decide what to do with it so he's in

he's willing to as we say rip the baby

out of the womb in the ninth month and

kill the baby nobody wants that to

happen democrat or republican nobody

wants it to happen ly that is simply not

true the roie way does not provide for

that that's not the circumstance only if

woman's life is in danger she's going to

die that's the only circumstance which

that can happen but we are not for late

term abortion period period period under

roie W you have late term abortion you

can do whatever you want depending on

the state you can do whatever you want

we don't think that's a good thing we

think it's a radical thing we think the

Democrats are the radicals not the

Republicans for 51 years that was a law

51 years constant of scholarship said it

was the right way to go 51 years and it

was taken away because this guy put very

conservative members on the Supreme

Court he takes credit for taking it away

what's he going to do what's he going to

do in fact if the if the Maga

Republicans he gets elected and the Maga

Republicans control the Congress and

they pass an Universal van on abortion

period across the board at six weeks or

seven or eight or 10 weeks something

very very conservative is he going to

sign that bill I'll veto it he'll sign

it thank you let's turn down to the

issue of immigration and border security

President Biden a record number of

migrants have illegally crossed the

southern border on your watch

overwhelming border states and

overburdening cities such as New York

and Chicago and in some cases causing

Safety and Security concerns given that

why should voters trust you to solve

this crisis because we worked very hard

to get a bipartisan agreement that not

only changed all of that made sure that

we are in a situation where you had no

circumstance where they could come

across the border with the number of

Border Police there are now we

significantly increased the number of

Asylum officers significantly by the way

the border patrol endorsed me endorsed

my position in addition to that we find

ourselves in a situation where when he

was president he was taking separating

babies from their mothers putting them

in cages making sure they were the

families were separated that's not the

right way to go what I've done since

I've changed the law what's happened

I've changed it in a way that now you're

in a situation where they're 40% fewer

people coming across the border legally

that's better than when he left office

and I'm going to continue to move until

we get the total ban on the the the

total initiative relative to what we can

do with more border patrol and more

Asylum officers president Trump I really

don't know what he said at the end of

that sentence I don't think he knows

what he said either look we had the

safest Border in the history of our

country the B all he had to do is leave

it all he had to do is leave it he

decided to open up our border open up

our country to people that are from

prisons people that are from mental

institutions insane asylum terrorists we

have the largest number of terrorists

coming into our country right now all

terrorists all over the world not just

in South America all over the world they

come from the Middle East everywhere all

over the world they're pouring in and

this guy just left it open and he didn't

need legislation because I didn't have

legislation I said close the border we

had the safest Border in history in that

final couple of months of my presidency

we had according to border patrol who is

great and by the way who endorsed me for

president but I won't say that but they

endorse me for president Brandon just

speak to him but look we had the safest

Border in history now we have the worst

Border in history there's never been

anything like it and people are dying

all over the place including the people

that are coming up in president Trump

President Biden the only terrorist who's

done anything crossing the border is one

who came along and killed three under

his administration killed an Al-Qaeda

person come in and his administration

kill three American soldiers kill three

American soldiers that's the only

terrorist that there I'm not saying it

no terrorist ever got through but the

idea they're emptying their prisons

we're we're welcoming these people

that's simply not true there is no data

to support what he said once again he's

exaggerating he's lying president Trump

um staying on the topic of immigration

you've said that you're going to carry

out quote the largest domestic

deportation operation in American

history unquote does that mean that you

will Deport every undocumented immigrant

in America including those who have jobs

including those whose spouses are

citizens and including those who have

lived here for decades if so how will

you do it just one second he said we

killed three people the people we killed

are Al baghdaddy and salaman the two

greatest terrorists biggest terrorists

anywhere in the world and it had a huge

impact on everything not just border on

everything he's the one to kill people

with the bad water including hundreds of

thousands of people dying and also

killing our citizens when they come in

we we are living right now in A Rat's

Nest they're killing our people in New

York in California in every state in the

Union because we don't have borders

anymore every state is now a border and

because of his ridiculous insane and

very stupid policies people are coming

in and they're killing our citizens at a

level that we've never SE we call it

migrant crime I call it Biden migrant

crime they're killing our citizens at a

level that we've never seen before and

you're reading it like these three

incredible young girls over the last few

days one of them I just spoke to the

mother and they just had the funeral for

this girl 12 years old this is horrible

what's taking place what's taking place

in our country we're literally an

uncivilized country now he doesn't want

it to be he just doesn't know he open

the borders nobody's ever seen anything

like and we have to get a lot of these

people out and we have to get them out

fast because they're going to destroy

our country just take a look at where

they're living they're living in luxury

hotels in New York City and other places

our veterans are on the street they're

dying because he doesn't care about our

veterans he doesn't care he doesn't like

the military at all and he doesn't care

about our veterans nobody been worse I

had the highest approval rating for

veterans taking care of the VA he has

the worst he's gotten rid of all the

things that I approved chice that I got

through Congress all of the different

things I approved they abandoned we had

by far the highest and now it's down in

less than half because he's done all

these great things that we did and I

think he did it just because I approved

it which is crazy but he has killed so

many people at our border by allowing

all of these people to come in a very

sad day Ander President Biden you have

the mic every single thing he said Is A

Lie every single one for example

veterans are a hell of a lot better off

since I P passed the pack attac one

million of them now have insurance and

their families have it their families

have it because what happened whether it

was agent orange or burn pits they're

all being covered now and he oppos his

group opposed that also in a situation

where we have great respect for veterans

my spent my son spent a year in Iraq

living one next to one of those burn

pits came back with Stage for G blastoma

I was recently in in in France for a

D-Day and I spoke to all about those

Heroes that died I went to the World War

II Cemetery World War I Cemetery he

refused to go to he was standing with

his fourstar General and he told me he

said I don't want to go in there because

they're a bunch of losers and suckers my

son was not a loser was not a sucker

you're the sucker you're the loser

president Trump uh first of all that was

a madeup quote suckers and losers they

made it up it was in a third rate

magazine that's failing like many of

these magazines uh he made that up he

put it in commercials we've notified him

we had 19 people that said I didn't say

it and think of this who would say I'm

at a cemetery or I'm talking about our

veterans because nobody's taken better

care I'm so glad this came up and he

brought it up there's nobody that's

taken better care of our soldiers than I

have

to think that I would in front of

generals and others say suckers and

losers we have 19 people that said it

was never said by me it was made up by

him just like Russia Russia Russia was

made up just like the 51 intelligence

agents are made up just like the new

thing with the 16 economists are talking

it's the same thing 51 intelligence

agents said that the laptop was Russia

disinformation it wasn't that came from

his son Hunter it wasn't Russia

disinformation he made up the suckers

and losers so he should apologize to me

right now fourstar General standing at

your side was on your staff who said you

said it period that's number one and

number two the idea the idea that I have

to apologize to you for anything along

the line we've done more for veterans

than any president has in American

history American history and they now

are their family the only sacred

obligation we have as a country is to

care for our veterans when they come

home and their families and equip them

when they go to war that's what we're

doing that's what the VA is doing now

they're doing more for veterans than

ever before in our history all right

thank you so much let's move to the

topic of foreign policy I want to begin

with Russia's war against Ukraine which

is now in its third year former

president Trump Russian President

Vladimir Putin says he'll only end this

war if Russia keeps the Ukrainian

territory it is already claimed and

Ukraine abandons its bid to join NATO

are Putin's terms acceptable to you

first of all our veterans and our

soldiers can't stand this guy they can't

stand him they think he's the worst

commander-in-chief if that's what you

call him that we've ever had they can't

stand him so let's get that straight and

they like me more than just about any of

them and that's based on every single

bit of information as far as Russia and

Ukraine if we had a real president the

president that knew that was respected

by Putin he would have never he would

have never invaded Ukraine a lot of

people are dead right now much more than

people know you know they talk about

numbers you can double those numbers

maybe triple those numbers he did

nothing to stop it in fact I think he

encouraged Russia from going in I tell

you what happened he was so bad with

Afghanistan it was such a horrible

embarrassment most embarrassing moment

in the history of our country that when

Putin watched that and he saw the

incompetence that he should he should

have fired those generals like I fired

the one that you mentioned and so he's

got no love loss but he should have

fired those generals no General got

fired for the most embarrassing moment

in the history of our country

Afghanistan where we left billions of

dollars of equipment behind we lost 13

beautiful soldiers and 38 soldiers were

obliterated and by the way we left

people behind too we left American

citizens behind when Putin saw that he

said you know what I think we're going

to go in and maybe take my this was his

dream I talked to him about it his dream

the difference is he never would have

invaded Ukraine never just like Israel

would have never been invaded in a

million years by Hamas you know why

because Iran was broke with me I

wouldn't let anybody do business with

them they ran out of money they were

broke they had no money for Hamas they

had no money for anything no money for

Terror that's why you had no Terror at

all during my Administration this place

the whole world is blowing up under him

President Biden I've never heard so much

malar in my whole life look the fact of

the matter is that we're in a situation

where let's take the last Point first

Iran attacked American troops kill

caused brain damage for a number of

these troops and he did nothing about it

recent when he was president they they

attacked he said they're just having

headaches that's all it is he didn't do

a thing when they attack took place

number one number two we got over

100,000 Americans and others out of of

Afghanistan during that airlift number

three we found ourselves in a situation

where if you take a look at what Trump

did in Ukraine he this guy told Ukraine

told Trump do whatever you want and do

whatever you want and that's exactly

what Trump did to Putin encourage him do

whatever you want and he went in listen

to what he said when he went in it was

going to take ke in five days remember

because it's part of the old Soviet

Union that's what he wanted to

reestablish

ke and he in fact didn't do it at all he

didn't wasn't able to get it done and

they've lost over they've lost thousands

of thousands of troops 500,000 troops

president Trump I come back to you for

for one minute I just want to go back to

my original question which is are

Putin's terms acceptable to you keeping

the territory in UK acceptable no

they're not acceptable but look this is

a war that never should have started if

we had a leader in this war he led

everybody along he's given $200 billion

now or more to Ukraine he's given $200

billion that's a lot of money I don't

think there's ever been anything like it

every time that zalinski comes to this

country he walks away with $60 billion

do he's the greatest salesman ever and

I'm not knocking him I'm not knocking

anything I'm only saying the money that

we're spending on this war and we

shouldn't be spending it should have

never happened I will have that War

settled between Putin and zalinski as

president elect before I take office on

January 20th I'll have that War settled

people being killed so needlessly so

stupidly and I will get it settled and

I'll get it settled fast before I take

office President Biden you have a minute

the fact is that Putin is a war criminal

he's killed thousands and thousands of

people and he has made one thing clear

he wants to reestablish what was part of

the Soviet Empire not just a pieace he

wants all of Ukraine that's what he

wants and then you think he'll stop

there do you think he'll stop when he if

he if he takes Ukraine what do you think

happens to Poland what do you think

bellarus what do you think happens to

those NATO countries and so if you want

a war you ought to find out what he's

going to do because if in fact he does

what he says and walks away by the way

all that money we give Ukraine from

weapons we make here in the United

States we give them the weapons not the

money at this point and and our NATO

allies have produced as much funding for

Ukraine as we have that's why it's

that's why we're strong thank you moving

on to the Middle East in October Hamas

attacked Israel killing more than a

thousand people and taking hundreds of

hostages among those held and thought to

still be alive our five Americans

Israel's response has killed thousands

of Palestinians and created a

humanitarian crisis in Gaza President

Biden you've put forward a a proposal to

resolve this conflict

but so far Hamas has not released the

remaining hostages and Israel is

continuing its military offensive in

Gaza so what additional leverage will

you use to get Hamas and Israel to end

the war you have two minutes number one

everyone from the United Nations secur

security Council straight through to the

G7 to the Israelis and Neto himself have

endorsed the plan I put forward endorsed

the plan I put forward which has three

stages to it the first stage is trade

the hostages for a ceasefire second

phase is a ceasefire with additional

conditions the third phase is no the end

of the war the only one who wants the

war to continue is Hamas number one

they're the only ones standing out we're

still pushing hard from to get them to

accept in the meantime what's happened

in Israel we're find the only thing I've

denied Israel was 2,000lb bombs they

don't work very well in populated areas

they whole lot innocent people we're

providing Israel with all the weapons

they need and when they need them and by

the way I'm the guy that organized the

world against Iran when they had a

full-blown intercontinental bistic

ballistic missile attack on Israel no

one was hurt no one Israeli was

accidentally killed and it stopped we

saved Israel we are the biggest producer

of support for Israel of anyone in the

world and so that's they're two

different things Hamas can not be

allowed to be continue we continue to

send our experts and our intelligent

people as to how they can get Hamas like

we did Ben Laden you don't have to do it

and by the way they've been greatly

weakened toas greatly weakened and they

should be they should be eliminated but

you've got to be careful for what using

certain weapons among population

centers just going back to Ukraine for

one second we have an ocean separating

us the European nations together

have spent a hundred billion or maybe

more than that less than us why doesn't

he call them and say you got to put up

your money like I did with NATO I got

them to put up hundreds of billions of

dollars the Secretary General of NATO

said Trump did the most incredible job

I've ever seen you wouldn't they

wouldn't have any they were going out of

business we were spending almost 100% of

the money was was paid by us he didn't

do that he's getting all you got to ask

these people to put up the money we're

over a hundred billion dollar more spent

and it has a bigger impact on them

because of location because we have an

ocean in between you got to ask them as

far as Israel and and Hamas Israel is

the one that wants to go he said the

only one who wants to keep going is

Hamas actually Israel is the one and you

should let him go and let him finish a

job he doesn't want to do it he's become

like a Palestinian but they don't like

him because he's a very bad Palestinian

he's a weak

one President Biden you have a minute

I've never heard so much foolishness

this is a guy who wants to get out of

NATO are you going to stay in NATO he's

going to pull out of NATO the idea that

we have our strength lies in our

alliances as well it may be a big ocean

but we ever able to avoid a war in in

Europe a major war in Europe what

happens if in fact you have Putin

continue to go into into NATO we have an

article five agreement attack on one is

Attack on all you want to start the

nuclear war he keeps talking about go

ahead let Putin go in and control

Ukraine and then move on to Poland and

other places

see what happens then he has no idea

what the hell he's talking about and by

the way I got 50 other nations around

the world to support Ukraine including

Japan and South Korea because they

understand that this this this kind of

dislocation has a serious threat to the

whole world peace no no major war in

Europe has ever been able to be

contained just to Europe president Trump

just to follow up would you support the

creation of an independent Palestinian

state in order to achieve peace in the

region I'd have to to see but before we

do that the problem we have is that we

spend all the money so they kill us on

trade I made great trade deals with the

European nations because if you add them

up they're about the same size

economically their economy is about the

same size as the United States and they

were no cars no they don't want anything

that we have but we're supposed to take

their cars their food their everything

their agriculture I changed that but the

big thing I changed is they don't want

to pay and the only reason that he can

play games with NATO is because I got

them to put up hundreds of billions of

dollars I said and he's right about this

I said no I'm not going to support NATO

if you don't pay they asked me that

question would you guard us against

Russia at a very secret meeting of the

28 uh States at that time Nations at

that time and they said no if you don't

pay I won't do that and you know what

happened billions and billions of

dollars came flowing in the next day and

the next months but now we're we're in

the same position we're paying

everybody's bills let's turn to the

issue of democracy former president

Trump I want to ask you about January 6

2021 after you rallied your supporters

that day some of them stormed the

capital to stop the constitutionally

mandated counting of electoral votes as

president you swore an oath to quote

preserve protect and defend unquote the

Constitution what do you say to voters

who believe that you violated that oath

through your actions and in action on

January 6 and worry that you'll do it

again I don't think too many believe

that and let me tell you about January

6th on January 6th we had a great border

nobody coming through very few on

January 6th we were energy independent

on January 6th we had the lowest taxes

ever we had the lowest regulations ever

on January 6 we were respected all over

the world all over the world we were

respected and then he comes in and we're

now left that we're like a bunch of

stupid people that what happened to the

United States's reputation under this

man's leadership is horrible including

weaponization which I'm sure at some

point you'll be talking about where he

goes after his political opponent

because he can't beat him fair and

square you have 80 seconds left my

question was what do you say to those

voters who believe that you VI violated

your constitutional oath through your

actions in action on January 6 2021 and

worry that you'll do it again well I

didn't say that to anybody I said

peacefully and patriotically and Nancy

Pelosi if you just watched the news from

two days ago on tape to her daughter

who's a documentary filmmaker they say

but she's saying oh no it's my

responsibility I was responsible for

this because I offered her 10,000

soldiers or National Guard and she

turned them down and the mayor of in

writing by the way the mayor in writing

turned it down the mayor of of DC they

turned it down I offered 10,000 because

I could see I had virtually nothing to

do they asked me to go make a speech I

could see what was happening everybody

was saying they're going to be there on

January 6 they're going to be there and

I saidou know what there's a lot of

people coming you could feel it you

could feel it too and you could feel it

and I said they ought to have some

National Guard or whatever and I offered

it to her and she now admits that she

turned it down and it was the same day

she was I don't know she can't be very

happy with her daughter because it made

her into a liar she said I take full

responsibility for January 6th President

Biden

look he encouraged those folks who go up

in Capitol Hill number one I sat in the

dining room off the Oval Office he sat

there for three hours three hours

watching begging being begged by his

vice president and a number of his

colleagues on the Republican side as

well to do something to call for a stop

to end it instead he talked talked about

these people being Patriots and and and

great patrons of America in fact he says

he'll now forgive them for what they've

done he they've been con convicted he

says he wants to commute their sentences

and say that no but he went to every

single Court in the nation I don't know

how many cases scores of cases including

the Supreme Court and they said they

said no no this guy this guy is

responsible for doing what is being was

done he did do a damn thing and these

people should be in jail and they should

be ones are being held accountable and

he wants to let them all out and now he

says if he loses again such a Wier that

he is that it could be a blood bath

thank you President Biden president

Trump what they've done to some people

that are so innocent you ought to be

ashamed of yourself what you have done

how you've destroyed the lives of so

many people when they RI down Portland

when they rip down uh many other cities

you go to Minnesota Minneapolis what

they've done there with the fires all

over the city if I didn't bring in the

National Guard that City would have been

destroyed when you look at all of the

they took over big chunks of Seattle I

was all set to bring in the National

Guard they heard that they saw them

coming and they left immediately what he

said about this whole subject is so off

peacefully patriotic one other

thing the unselect committee which is

basically two horrible Republicans that

are all gone now out of office and

Democrats all Democrats they destroyed

and deleted all of the information they

found because they found out we were

right right we were right and they

deleted and destroyed all of the

information they should go to jail for

that if a republican did that they'd go

to jail thank you president Trump

President Biden I want to give you a

minute the only person on this stage is

a convicted fellon and is the man I'm

looking at right now and the fact of the

matter is he isn't he's what he's

telling you is simply not true the fact

is that there was no effort on his part

to stop what was going on up in Capitol

Hill and all those people every one of

those who were convicted deserves to be

convicted it the idea that they didn't

kill somebody just went in and broke

down doors broke the windows occupied

offices turned over desk turn them over

statues the idea that those people are

patriots come on when I asked him the

first two debates we had the debates we

had first time around I said will you

denounce the proud boy he said no I'll

tell them to stand by the idea he's

refusing to will you denounce these guys

you denounce the people we're talking

talking about now you denounce the

people who attack that Capital what are

you going to

do I'm going to uh give you a a minute

president Trump for a follow-up question

I have um after a jury convicted you of

34 felonies last month you said if

reelected you would quote have every

right to go after unquote your political

opponents you just talked about members

of the select committee on January 6

going to jail your main political

opponent is standing on stage with you

tonight can you clarify exactly what it

means about you feeling you have every

right to go after your political

opponents well I said my retribution is

going to be success we're going to make

this country successful again because

right now it's a failing Nation my

retribution is going to be success but

when he talks about a convicted felon

his son is a convicted Fon at a very

high level his son is convicted going to

be convicted probably numerous other

times should have been convicted before

but his Justice apartment let the

statute of limitations lapse on the most

important things but he could be a

convicted felon soon as he gets out of

office Joe could be a convicted fellon

with all of the things that he's done

he's done horrible things all of the

death caused at the the Border uh

telling the Ukrainian people that we're

going to want a billion dollars or you

change the prosecutor otherwise you're

not getting a billion dollars if I ever

said that that's quid proquo that we're

not going to do anything we're not going

to give you a billion dollars unless you

change your prosecutor having to do with

his son this man is a criminal this man

you're lucky you're lucky I did nothing

wrong we'd have a system that was rigged

and disgusting I did nothing wrong thank

you president Trump President Biden you

have said I'm coming right to you sir

you well you want to respond go ahead

I'll give you a minute to respond the

idea that I did anything wrong relative

to what you're talking about is

outrageous it's simply a lie number one

number two the idea that you have a

right to seek retribution against any

American just because your president is

wrong is simply wrong no president's

ever spoken like that before no present

in our history has spoken like that

before number three the crimes that you

are still charged with and think of all

the Civil penalties you have how many

billions of dollars do you owe in civil

penalties for for molesting a woman in

public for doing a whole range of things

of having sex with a porn star on the

night while your wife was pregnant I

mean what what are you talking about you

you have the morals of an

alleycat give you a minute sir I didn't

have sex with a porn star number one

number two that was a case that was

started and moved they moved a

high-ranking official a doj into the

Manhattan DA's office to start that case

that case is going to be appealed in one

we had a very terrible judge a horrible

judge Democrat the prosecutor were all

high ranking Democrats appointed people

and the both the civil and the criminal

he basically went after his political

opponent because he thought it was going

to damage me but when the public found

out out about these cases because they

understand them better than he does he

has no idea what these cases are but

when he when they found out about these

cases you know what they did my poll

numbers went up way up you know that

because you're reporting it and we took

in more money in the last two weeks than

we've ever taken in in the history of of

any campaign I don't think any campaign

has ever taken hundreds of millions of

dollars came pouring in because the

public knows it's a scam and it's a guy

that's after his political opponent

because he can't win fair and square

thank you president Trump president

Biden you have said quote Donald Trump

and his magga Republicans are determined

to destroy American democracy do you

believe that the tens of millions of

Americans who are likely to vote for

president Trump will be voting against

American democracy the more they know

about what he's done yes the more they

know about what he's done and there's a

lot more coming he's got a lot of cases

around the road coming around he's got

he's got a whole range of issues he has

to face I don't know what the juries

will do but I knew and I do know he has

a real problem and so the fact that

could you ever think you hear any

president say that I'm going to seek

retribution you ever hear any president

say that I thought Hitler had some good

ideas what got me involved to run the

first place after my son had died I

decided in Iraq because of Iraq I said I

wasn't going to run again until I saw

what happened in Charlottesville

Virginia people coming out of the woods

carrying swastikas on torches torches

and and singing the same anti-semitic B

they sang when

back in Germany and what did and the

young woman got killed they spoke to the

mother and she they asked him they said

what what do you think of those people

the people who the ones who got killed

the one who tried to stop it and the on

he said I think they're fine people on

both sides what American president would

ever say Nazis coming out of fields

carrying torches singing the same

anti-semitic B carrying swastikas were

fine people this is the guy who says

Hitler's done some good things I like to

know what they are the good things

Hitler's done that's what he said this

guy has no sense of American

democracy president Trump Jake both of

you know that story has been totally

wiped out because when you see the

sentence it said 100% exoneration on

that so he just keeps it going he says

he ran because of Charlottesville he

didn't run because of Charlottesville he

ran because it was his last chance it

he's not equipped to be president you

know it and I know it it's ridiculous we

have a debate we're trying to justify

his presidency his presidency he's

without question the worst president the

worst presidency in the history of our

country we shouldn't be having a debate

about it there's nothing to debate he

made up the Charlottesville story and

you'll see it's debunked all over the

place every anchor has de every

reasonable anchor has debunked it and

just the other day it came out where it

was fully debunked it's a nonsense story

he knows that and he didn't run because

of Charlottesville he used that as an

excuse to run

president bid and debunk it happened all

you have to do is listen to what was

said at the time and the idea that

somehow that's the only reason I ran I

ran because I was worried a guy like

this guy could get elected if he thought

they were good people coming out of that

all that Forest carrying those those

woods carrying those torches that he

didn't deserve to be president didn't

deserve to be president at all and the

idea that he's talking about all this

being fabricated we saw with our own

eyes we saw what happened on January 6th

we saw the people breaking through the

windows we saw people occupying that his

own vice president look there's a reason

why 40 of his 44 top cabinet officers

refused to endorse him this time his

vice president hasn't endorsed him this

time so why why they know him well they

serve with him why are they not

endorsing him thank you President Biden

we're going to be right back with more

from the CNN presidential

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debate live from Georgia let's talk

about persistent challenges you both

faced in your first terms and you'd

certainly face again in a second term

President Biden while black unemployment

dropped to a record low under your

presidency black families still earn far

less less than white families black

mothers are still three times more

likely to die from pregnancy related

causes and black Americans are

imprisoned at five times the rate of

white Americans what do you say to Black

voters who are disappointed that you

haven't made more progress they

acknowledge they made a lot of progress

number one the fact of the matter is

there's more small black businesses that

have been started in any time in history

number two the wages of black their

black unemployment is the lowest level

has been in a long long time number

three we find find providing housing for

black Americans and dealing with the

segregation that exists among these

corporate these corporate rations that

collude to keep people out of their

houses and in addition to that we find

that the impact of on the the choice

that black families have to make

relative to child care is a incredibly

difficult when we did the first major

piece of legislation in the past I was

able to reduce black child care costs I

cut them in half in half we got to make

sure we provide for child care cost we

got to make sure because when you

provide that child care protections you

in increase economic growth because more

people can be in the in the job market

so there's more to be done considerably

more to be done but we've done a great

deal so far and I'm not letting up and

they know it you have 49 seconds left

what do you say to Black voters who are

disappointed with the progress so far I

say I don't blame them for being

disappointed inflation is still hurting

them badly for example I provided for

the idea that any black family firsttime

home buyer should get a $10,000 tax

credit to be able to buy their first

home so they can get started I made sure

that we're in a situation where all

those black families and those black

individuals who provided had to take out

student loans that were ballooning that

if they were engaged in nursing doctor

and any anything having to do with

volunteerism if they paid their bills

for 10 years on their student debt all

the rest is Forgiven after 10 years

Millions have benefited from that and

we're going to do a whole lot more for

black families thank you president Trump

and he caused the inflation he's blaming

inflation and he's right it's been very

bad he caused the inflation and it's

killing black families and Hispanic

families and just about everybody it's

killing people they can't buy groceries

anymore they can't you look at the cost

of food where it's doubled and tripled

and quadrupled they can't live they're

not living anymore he caused this

inflation I gave him a country with no

essentially no inflation it was perfect

it was so good all he had to do is leave

it alone he destroyed it with his green

new scam and all of the other all this

money that's being thrown out the window

he caused inflation as sure as you're

sitting there the fact is that his big

kill on the black people is the millions

of people that he's allowed to come in

through the Border they're taking black

jobs now and it could be 18 it could be

19 and even 20 million people they're

taking black jobs and they're taking

Hispanic jobs and you haven't seen it

yet but you're going to see something

that's going to be the worst in our

history thank you President Biden there

was no inflation when I became president

you know why the economy was flat on its

back 15% unemployment he decimated the

economy absolutely decimated the economy

that's why there was no inflation at the

time there were no jobs we provided

thousands of millions of jobs for

individuals who were in all communities

including minority communities we made

sure that they have health insurance we

have covered if the ACA has incre I made

sure that they're $8,000 per person and

a family to get written off for

healthare but this guy wants to Li that

they tried 50 times he wants to get rid

of the ACA again and they're going to

try again if they win you find ourselves

in a position where the idea that we're

not doing any I put more we put more

police on the street than any

Administration has he wants to cut the

cops we're providing for Equity equity

and making sure people have a shot to

make it there's a lot going on but in

inflation he caused it by his tremendous

amount feas into the the way handle the

pandemic thank you another persistent

challenge is the climate crisis 2023 was

the hottest year in recorded history and

communities across the country are

confronting the devastating effects of

extreme heat intensifying wildfires

stronger hurricanes and rising sea

levels former president Trump you've

vowed to end your opponent's climate

initiatives but will you take any action

as president to slow the climate crisis

well let me just go back to what he said

about the police how close the police

are to him almost every police group in

the nation from every state is

supporting Donald J Trump almost every

police group and what he's done to the

black population is horrible including

the fact that for 10 years he called

them super Predators we can't in the

1990s we can't forget that super

Predators was his name and he called it

to him for 10 and they've taken great

offense at it and now they see it

happening but when they see what I did

for criminal justice form and for the

historically black uh colleges and

universities where I funded them and got

them all funded and the opportunity

zones with with Tim as you know Tim

Scott was incredible he did a great job

great senator from South Carolina he

came to me with the idea and it was a

great idea it's one of the most

successful Economic Development acts

ever in the country opportunity zones

and the biggest beneficiary are blacks

and that's why we have the best numbers

with them in maybe ever they're saying

ever I read this morning whereever the

best numbers he's lost much of the black

population because he's done a horrible

job for black people he's also done a

horrible job for Hispanics but way do

you see these millions of people pouring

into our country and they're going to

take the jobs and it's already started

and you haven't seen anything yet it's a

disaster you've 38 seconds left

president Trump will you take any action

as president to slow the climate crisis

so I want absolutely Immaculate clean

water and I want absolutely clean air

and we had it we had H2O we had the best

numbers ever and we did we were using

all forms of energy all forms everything

and yet during my four years I had the

best environmental numbers ever and my

top environmental people gave me that

statistic just before I walked on the

stage

actually I don't know where the hell

he's been

the idea that a he said is true I've

passed the most extensive most extensive

climate change legislation in history in

history we find ourselves and by the way

black colleges I I came up with $50

billion for HBCU historic black

universities and colleges because they

don't have they don't have the kind of

contributors that they have to build

these Laboratories and the like any

black student is capable in College of

doing what any white student can do they

just have the money but now they'll be

able to get those jobs in high-tech

we're in a situation where the idea that

he is claiming to have done something

that had the cleanest water the cleanest

water he hadn't done a damn thing in the

environment he pulled out of the Paris

peace Accord climate Accord I

immediately joined it because if we re H

1.5 degrees C at anyone point where

there's no way back the only existential

threat to humanity is climate change and

he didn't do a dam Dam thing about it he

must undo all that I've

done the Paris Accord was going to cost

us a trillion dollars and China nothing

and Russia nothing and India nothing it

was a ripoff of the United States and I

ended it because I didn't want to waste

that money because they treated us